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Session Start: Sat Feb 15 14:12:46 2003
(Lombo243) i wouldnt be that sure, also when i pole shift happens it will not be that negative and kill 90% ppl
(NancyL) I have a number of SIGNS of the TIMES to post if anyone is interested.
(Zman) welcome NancyL...I admired how you put up with those radio jocks!
(Tied2) post them
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #1 No Warning to be Given
(NancyL) Armageddon Asteroids 'Best Kept Secret', 15 Feb 2003: "A scientific adviser to the United States government has suggested that secrecy might be the best option if scientists were ever to discover that a
(NancyL) giant asteroid was on course to collide with Earth. When a problem arises with high uncertainty, there is an opportunity to spin the problem to avoid global panic. If you can't do anything about a warning, then there is no point in issuing a warning at all,"
(Lombo243) ascending is something positiv not negative.nothing to fear when it happens
(NancyL) http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=378392
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #2 Shuttle Columbia External Breach
(NancyL) Chronicle Science Editor Sunday, Feb 2, 2003 "The photographer invited The Chronicle to view the photos on his computer screen Saturday night, and they are indeed puzzling. They show a bright scraggly flash of orange light, tinged with pale purple, and shaped somewhat like a deformed L. The flash appears to cross the Columbia's dim contrail, and at that precise point, the contrail abruptly brightens and appears thicker and somewhat twisted as if it w
(NancyL) were wobbling. "
(NancyL) Shuttle Columbia, external breach reported as cause by NASA as of Feb 14, 2002.
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #3 Qualified Answer "No Scientific Evidence of Coming Event"
(NancyL) Nancy, I requested to the group that handle the hubble telescope to take a look into the cordinates that have been provided from your zetatalk site. here is the answer from the outreach: "Hubble Space Telescope's schedule of observations are very carefully planned months in advance. These observations are prepared as the result of astronomers' accepted proposals, submitted the previous year."
(NancyL) "There is no scientific evidence that such an event is going to happen. Since you have the coordinates, why don't you go look for yourself? Office of Public Outreach"
(NancyL) SIGNS of the TIMES #4 Stop the Moderated Chats!
(NancyL) From: [email protected]; Subject: Re: [WebForm] Please step down; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 "Nancy, I know you are a fraud! You know you are a fraud! That is why I could not let you have your normal session on my IRC server this past weekend. I believe in the coming events as much as you do, but I refuse to believe half of the Zeta-Babble that comes out of your mouth!!"
(NancyL) " Please Nancy, do what is best for all of these followers you have and step aside. I can guide them on the right path much better than you can. I can understand the messages from the Zeta much better than you can. Why? Because the Zeta people don't really exist."
(NancyL) "They only exist in your head. We need to focus on how to survive the pole shift and not on these conspiracies the Zeta's keep babbling about. I don't know if you need mental help or if you just like people believing the crazy Zeta-Babble that comes out of your head but it needs to stop!"
(Ron) stop th
(NancyL) "Please, do what is right for all of our believers and stop this non-sense! Thank you, QV" Needless to say, Queen Vee does not even have this email address, nor did she write this. Sounds like the Hazelwood crowd, who assert the ZetaTalk message delivered by the CIA pawn Hazelwood is valid, but by ZetaTalk is not.
(NancyL) Then the message starts to get twisted. http://www.zetatalk.com/index/hazelwod.htm
(NancyL) SIGN of the TIMES #5
(NancyL) Investment Advice: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original $1,000.00. With Worldcom, you would have less
(NancyL) than $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Pepsi (the soda, not the stock) one year ago, drank all the soda, then turned in the bottles for a 5 cent deposit, you would have $107.00.
(GalacticExplorer) Nancy please read Private Message
(FromTexas) NANCYL
(Zman) this from the Drudge Report today!
(Zman) maybe a slight leak by the establishment
(ER1CLE28) has the discussion started?
(Zman) soon
(Zman) greetings Tcards
(Tcards) is the session going ahead this week?
(Zman) NancyL is here so let's hope it does
(Tcards) an estimated 1.5 million in the anti war march in London today if anyone`s interested
(Tcards) how do you like them apples Mr Blair? he he
(Tied2) Does anyone want a copy of "all about food and water" 237 pages packed full of good info in MS word format ready to be printed
(Tcards) what`s in it?
(Tied2) all about food and water , lots of how too's
(Zod) yes pleasse tied2
(Zman) i would also tied2. thank you.
(Zod) THANKS... you kind soul
(Zman) thanks tied2...you da man! (or woman!)
(Tied2) man
(Tied2) lol
(Zman) so what happened to NancyL... she was just here???
(Zman) and gave us some interesting sign of the times....
(Lombo243) NancyL: question is Nibiru a planet or a spaceship?
(Zman) check zetatalk.com, lombo
(Lombo243) i know zman i want to know it from nancy or better the zetas
(Lombo243) serious question
(Zman) pretty plain that it's not a spaceship!
(Obany) please wait for the #zetatalk session
(Tcards) is queen going to appear tonight? It is her channel afterall.
(Mulder) Is there going to be a session here today, anyone? I see NancyL but no Queen -yet
(Zman) all waiting to find out, mulder
(Mulder) K
(Zman) sort of in a wait mode now....
(Humvee) are we posting Q's now?
(Zman) maybe the Z's are waiting for the group to generate it's own session???
(Earlene) #shift2003 1959
(Lombo243) are there new space pics?
(Tekk) where's Nancy?
(Phoenix) It feels to me like all hell is ready to break loose. Would the Z's comment on upcoming events?
(3j) so there is a session in #shift2003?
(Torbj) Look at the date! "Astronomers worldwide will collaborate in continuous observations of one of these newly found stars for several weeks in May 2003." link: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/02/030214075233.htm
Session Close: Sat Feb 15 14:41:17 2003
Session Start: Sat Feb 15 14:16:47 2003
(PegasiTristan) Well, whoever that was, they werent able to stop the #zetatalk chat. :)
(Moderator) ah
(Jurian) whoever wrote that is NOT network staff, and the "my IRC server" comment is bullshit
(NancyL) I'll BRB
(Moderator) WELCOME NANCY!
(GalacticExplorer) Hello Nancy!
(Earth420) Hi Nancy/Zs!
(Dim) He sure did come off as frantic.
(Stevie) who was RON?
(Dim) Hello Nancy.
(Stevie) CIA
(PegasiTristan) heh, prob.
(Moderator) OKAY, THE ABOVE QUOTE FROM "Ron" WAS SOMETHING THAT NANCY STARTED TO POST IN #poleshiftdiscussion, NOT REALIZING THE SESSION WAS IN HERE....
(Stevie) ???
(Moderator) SO SHE WILL EXPLAIN IT ALL TO YOU WHEN SHE COMES BACK
(Ron) Didn't want anyone to miss out...
(Sotos) Ok
(Bailey) hi Nancy, looks like the kitchen is getting prety hot these day
(Earth420) oh
(Stevie) im confused
(GWilra) is someone receiving questions yet?
(NancyL) Hi folks, I got a private invitation to come here. Is this where the chat will occur?
(Moderator) yes, GWilra
(Obany) Yes
(GalacticExplorer) yes
(Moderator) YES, NANCY-- this is QueenVee speaking
(Moderator) Obany
(Moderator) OBANY: HELP
(DrGreen) The only thing I have problems with is the facts that if Nibiru follows the Z's predictions, it'll have to become 3 billion-times as bright in a little 45 days.
(DrGreen) hope it does.
(NancyL) Its quite important to have the chats continue, as a fully moderated (read not disruptible) chat is deemed a threat at this time, I gather.
(DrGreen) we need change.
(Stevie) good everning Nancy from Steve from England
(GWilra) question: in a recent chat session, the phrase "Earth's dark twin" was used. What is the significance of "dark"?
(DrGreen) we cannot see it?
(NancyL) I posted to sci.astro showing the imaging Trends showed an inbound object, hopefully they will at some point just stop trying to stop the message, having their hand full and the cat out of the bag, etc.
(Earth420) Dr Green got a scope?
(Dim) Gwilra, it is a dead planet. No life.
(DrGreen) no, gonna image soon through Arnie. Just need to plan with some friends of mine. it's not cheap you know.
(GWilra) thanks
(dreidee) hi Nancy .. here dreidee from Germany .. i am new to the whole topic and will follow this disc
(Dim) Your welcome.
(Moderator) NANCY: I'M HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY HERE, CAN YOU HOLD OFF FOR ABOUT 2 MINUTES?
(NancyL) Arnie of the Scope in Arizona is here?
(NancyL) I can absolutely wait!
(DrGreen) I do not know. I think not.
(Earth420) ha!
(DrGreen) he (almost) always uses his original name
(Earth420) The plot thickens... bu wah wah!
(Stevie) Nancy will you be on your own when on the LOU GENTILE SHOW..
(NancyL) Stevie, this will be a 2 hours interview, and I and the Zetas will be there :-)
(Stevie) GOOD LUCK
(Earth420) Awesome!
(InSomNiaC420) When is it set for?
(Moderator) brb
(Monk) Nancy when will you be on the Lou Gentile show ?
(Stevie) Febuary 28
(InSomNiaC420) thx
(NancyL) Lou Gentile Feb 28th, 10-midnight EST.
(Monk) Im listening to a archive show and he just mentioned you
(NancyL) Last time he has calls from Canada, Oklahoma, etc. so has a broad reach.
(InSomNiaC420) So are we gonna do two hour here? or one here, one zetatalk?
(PegasiTristan) wb QV
(NancyL) Waiting for Queen to make her statements, if any.
(Zetapal) Nancy have you seen that all of the ZT radio interviews are up here:
(Zetapal) http://www.darkinsight.com/audio/
(Dave7) Hi Nancy, great to hear your voice on radio. Apologize for 2 stupid co-hosts.
(Moderator2) okay, i'm back
(NancyL) Dave7! Are you from KROQ?
(Lato) hello Nancy from Canada
(Moderator2) NANCY: ARE YOU READY TO GO NOW?
(Monk) ZP: not all of them
(Bailey) I cant stay long, I have do a floor and comode install today, will stay online but away
(NancyL) Well, we have about half the world represented here...
(Moderator2) Obany: you're in charge of moderation mode
(Zetapal) which ones missing Monk?
(Dave7) Can't stay Mod. too ill and no sun. Just got 1 question.
(DrGreen) Yeah Nancy, your voice really sounded different from what I imagined - in a positive way.
(NancyL) Please note, folks, recently loaded into the sci.astro section of ZT (take the menu link) the Trends on Sightings.
(Moderator2) it works!
(NancyL) Bottom line, at first the whole complex was a dot (body,moons, tail, etc)
(NancyL) Then as it got closer, the dot got bigger and brighter.
(NancyL) Then we started seeing the tail as a haze, and the dot which now was only the PX body stayed more or less the same.
(NancyL) Then the tail became swirls, overlapping huge splotches, very dramatic.
(NancyL) Then individual moons were discernable.
(NancyL) Then the moon count started rising (we could make them out).
(NancyL) Now we are seeing the PX body, with close hugging dust clouds, as a LARGE number of pixels, but overall more diffuse.
(NancyL) In other words, we must continue to look at the forest, not just the trees, and not get lost!
(NancyL) Earlier we were looking only at the forest, at a distance, but now we are focusing on trees as well.
(NancyL) But altogether, the trends show an inbound complex! Clearly!
(NancyL) Done with my trends diseratation.
(Moderator2) READY FOR QUESTIONS, NANCY?
(NancyL) Moderator, I'm ready :-)
(Moderator2) QUESTION #1:
(Moderator2) Can the Zetas comment on the alleged tape of Osama bin laden, linking Osama to Saddam Hussein? Is the tape authentic, or as many suspect, manufactured by those whose interests it serves?
(NancyL) ZT: Why would Bin Laden produce ONLY an audio, when formerly produced video?
(NancyL) ZT: Most of the world is highly suspicious, in that Powell failed to rally the UN with his so-called evidence, all heresay and second hand and NOT evidence at all.
(NancyL) ZT: Troubled with NATO, anti-war demonstrations, a continuously falling Stock Market, and no terror attacks in the US despite the Bush Administrations fervent NEED for something to act as the trigger for war!
(NancyL) ZT: The inspectors finding NO evidence, despite the US giving them all the intel they have, and thus, the Bush Administration falling flat.
(NancyL) ZT: What would it take to manufacture a Bin Laden tape?
(NancyL) ZT: Do they not have his voice on tape already, from his many videos and the like?
(NancyL) ZT: To certify an audio as coming from an individual, it needs to be produced FROM that person, but who is checking for splicing?
(NancyL) ZT: Go over past tapes the CIA has in their possession, and find a word in the NEW audio that does not already apprear in the old.
(NancyL) ZT: Indeed, manufactured, and as Bin Laden is scarsely dead as announced in the past by the US, he will find his own way of announcing this falsehood.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(Moderator) FOLLOWUP QUESTIONS
(DrGreen) (not really a follow-up) Nancy, when will PX be so visible in the images, that noone can use the pixeldefect-argument anymore?
(Shaman464) will this lead to fake terrorist attacks?
(NancyL) DrGreen, we're there now, on the images.
(DrGreen) Nice explaination on Bin Laden. I have no questions about that.
(Stevie) will the Bush and Blair goverment's fake a terror attack to get there own way..to attack Iraq?
(Monk) Can the zetas comment on if Bin Laden is dead or not ?
(Earth420) Yeah! Knew it! WIll someone uncover the tape as false, do the test for splicing in the future?
(Dave7) Can the Zetas comment on whether the US military developed a disease agent called MYCOPLASMA in the early 50's which is now dormant in most humans and will the trauma of the PS trigger it, disabling many survivors in the aftertime? Thankyou.
(NancyL) Stevie, they have been trying this for many months, and the Zetas stated they are preventing this from being a "success" for them.
(Obany) Monk: they already did
(NancyL) Also, preventing REAL terror attacks, as this would be used as an excuse.
(DrGreen) Nancy, maybe they should not use that argument, but many still do.
(NancyL) Dave7, that sounds like hocum, for sure.
(NancyL) Monk, they stated last week he is alive and still in Pakistan.
(Dave7) What do the Zeta say.
-obany- might be better to part the other channel now as people think the session is in there, just do /part
(Earth420) excuse me Dave 7?
(NancyL) DrGreen, pixel defects will probably be used for months, yet. They don't know what else to say.
(Dave7) YES Earth
(Earth420) oh ok
Session Close: Sat Feb 15 14:39:29 2003
Session Start: Sat Feb 15 14:40:20 2003
(Moderator) welcome back
(PegasiTristan) :)
(NancyL) Sorry folks, I got confused.
(DrGreen) playing hide and seek?
(NancyL) I'm new at this dodge game.
(PegasiTristan) hehe
(Dim) Some official government channels are already making nofise about an incoming object.
(NancyL) OK, ready for Q2?
(DrGreen) yeah
(Moderator) NancyL: YOU SHOULD LEAVE #poleshiftdiscussion
(Moderator) NEXT QUESTION:
(NancyL) OK, I will part #poleshiftdiscussion.
(Moderator) Can the Zetas comment on the ever increasing surge of PUBLIC PROTESTS all over the world, against the US and war with Iraq? Are these protests an outward manifestation of unconscious communication between the participants. What effect are these communications/protests having on world events (if any)?
(NancyL) ZT: Anti-war protests against the US intent are sincere and emerging for many reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: This war has been painted by the war mongers as one to liberate the country, when occupation will result.
(NancyL) ZT: The war has been painted as one that will be over quickly, when this is never the case, tens of thousands of lives lost, maimed, and agony for the civilians and troups alike.
(NancyL) ZT: The war has been painted as justified, for biological agents and bombs, when other countries such as North Korea and the US and Russia CLEARLY have these, are developing them, and the US is being the war monger.
(NancyL) ZT: Then there is the issue of OIL, where the Bush family and Chenney have earned their money in the past. Who would control the Iraq oil, and the Saudi oil which will be conquered next?
(NancyL) ZT: Are we to suppose that oil prices will DROP, when California was punished by Enron, going into the election where Bush supposedly took office, for being Democratic?
(NancyL) ZT: California had blackouts, because the Enron electricity was hiked TO PUNISH them.
(NancyL) ZT: Europe would be next.
(NancyL) ZT: And where is the alternative energy funding in the new war-mongering budget forwarded by the Bush Administration?
(NancyL) ZT: Nonexistent, in essence, cut back, a warning to any who think our words are hollow.
(NancyL) ZT: Indeed, the agony of the injury to the innocent, the certainty of CONTINUING world domination attempts by the US, and the deaf ear the US administration is currently turning to starvation worldwide, economic devastation in the US and worldwide, has ALL populations alarmed.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, these protests are NOT engineered, manufactured, but are spontaneous from many sources, all with various worry points.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Earth420) I am so proud of humanity right now in reagard to the anti war stand, showing we are not the sheep and cattle the government hoped for! Raising their red flags, and saying "hey"...
(Stevie) Nancy will the United States and the United Kingdom let the un inspectors carry on with there work and just wait for the pole shift?
(Dave7) Can the Zeta comment on whether millions of infected mosquitoes were released as part of 'open-air' testing in Florida in 1957, resulting in one of the first outbreaks of Cronic Fatique Syndrome?
(Obany) Dave7: that is not a follow up question, please remain to follow up questions
(NancyL) Stevie, this is in the hands of man, and last week the Z's said we may have this 'about to' stage for months and weeks, but no war occuring.
(NancyL) They also said that IF war is set out upon, that the Bush Administration will have some 'surprises' not specified :-)
(Zod) hehe
(NancyL) Dave, the quick answer from the Z's is that this is NOT an engineered disease, no.
(Zod) I hear you Nancy
(Stevie) thankyou
(NancyL) Guess we're ready for the next Q :-)
(Dave7) Thankyou
(Humvee) Question: Using our sun as the reference point: At the present time how far is the Planetx/nibiru complex of objects, how fast is it traveling and what will it average acceleration be until it passes through our solar system?
(Moderator) ok
(Moderator) NEXT QUESTION:
(NancyL) Humvee, I'm getting some updated info on that, the Table of Distances is not accurate.
(Moderator) There are reports that UFO sightings re increasing all over the world. Can the zetas comment on the reasons for this, and the connection (if any) to the coming poleshift?
(NancyL) ZT: As we mentioned at the start of ZetaTalk, in 1995, sighings would be on the increase, mass sightings would then increase as the populaction affected became comfortable with such an event, and then sightings of alien lifeforms would occur.
(NancyL) ZT: This has occurred, during the intervening years, most often not reported in the new.
(NancyL) ZT: Now, however, the incidences have become so widespread, mass sightings, that it is almost common knowledge and thus, gets into the news almost automatically.
(NancyL) ZT: The reason for this oversight on the part of the debunkers is that there is SO much discussion that they forget WHEN they are supposed to put on the brakes, or WHERE.
(NancyL) ZT: If the debunkers here this chatter during their commute, in the cafe, at the bar, in the bedroom, they just shrug and listen, knowing this to be true and chosing no comment as an avoidance.
(NancyL) ZT: Then comes the point where a newscaster reports a mass sighting, or a local piece gets picked up and become national or international via press routes, and the debunker at first shrugs and then realizes they let it PASS!
(NancyL) ZT: Oops, too late now, and better to ignore it else attention will be called!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, you are hearing more about this in the news, where it actually has been occurring all along, in recent months and years.
(NancyL) ZT: Often, those who have been witness to a mass sighting, or hear about it, try to establish a REASON for the UFO's.
(NancyL) ZT: If there is any event, like a disaster, as with the Mothman Prophecies, this is assumed to be a warning.
(NancyL) ZT: Alternatively, there are those who will assume the UFO's caused the event.
(NancyL) ZT: None of this is the case.
(NancyL) ZT: UFO's and mass sightings and mass visitations of contactees in an area are all part of the plan, to establish a confort level with the alien presence, so that the NEXT stage can begin.
(NancyL) ZT: As Nancy reports in her Lifeform Orientation writeup, she herself was hardly comfortable with the types of lifeforms she was presented with.
(NancyL) ZT: She reports that BeanBag Man (her term) caused her to faint for the first time in her life.
(NancyL) ZT: She reports that recalling the BugMan, standing like a giant cockroach in front of her complete with waveing antenna, was difficult for her to bring forward to her consciousness.
(NancyL) ZT: Bear in mind that Nancy is hardly a coward, nor the fainting type, and steps up to the plate no matter WHAT.
(NancyL) ZT: So what would the average contactee, or group of contactees, do if presented in their conscious with such sights?
(NancyL) ZT: To prevent mass panic, or adverse reactions, they are first presented with the alien lifeform individually, to adjust.
(NancyL) ZT: If in a group, a single bad reaction would affect the whole, so individual presentations are done routinely.
(NancyL) ZT: When the group, be this a family or a neighborhood or small town or camping trip association, are familiar, then a conscious sighting might occur.
(NancyL) ZT: This would be at a distance, as a glance, like the sightings of BigFoot, so no threat exists but LOTS of discussion occurs afterwards.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, increased UFO sightings are part of the plan, newly into the news, and all should anticipate the NEXT stage, as they may be part of this!
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Domicile) Q: What is the next stage for this devleopment and how is it expected unfold?
(InSomNiaC420) good Q
(Stevie) nancy im sure you are aware of STEVEN GREER'S work the disclosure project how close are they to becoming publik and letting the masses know the truth about alien's
(Dave7) Dave respects you bugman.
(NancyL) Dom, local conscious sightings of alien lifeforms, at a distance, prehaps running into the woods, or passing you on the street with a quick wave, or whatever.
(Earth420) Will some contactees be in conscious contact?
(NancyL) If you see a green man, or a talking toad, don't faint! Just say "hi".
(Domicile) k
(PegasiTristan) :)
(InSomNiaC420) lol I'll be looking forward to that.. "Hi little green toad :)"
(DrGreen) Stevie, read http://www.zetatalk.com/awaken/a96.htm
(NancyL) Stevie, this project will never happen, only talk, etc. The Bush Administration does NOT want alien hugging to occur, nor will they admit to lying in the past.
(Dim) A talking toad Nancy?!
(Franci66) Hey what is this red object? in http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/swpod2003/15feb03/Marisa1.jpg
(Obany) Franci66: please keep that question for the other session later on
(DrGreen) Yeah Franci, I'm curious.
(NancyL) Dim, they are greasy toads, octopi, large amoeba things, ALL manner of intelligent life forms, slugs without eyes or limbs, etc.
(NancyL) Get used to it!
(Earth420) Im waiting for the praying mantis type
(NancyL) Franci66, it surely is not Px, something else as they will increasingly try to confuse the public. Don't be confused!
(Earth420) thatd be cool to check out!
(Jurian) hehehe
(Jurian) a HUGE praying mantis :D
(Domicile) In the future we are likely all vegetarians
(Earth420) Be like, hey dude...
(NancyL) Jurian, I hear they are very loving, and NO STS types here in the Praying Mantis form.
(Earth420) ya wanna try some of this out?
(Jurian) heh, cool :)
(Dim) Wow, I find this very exciting! This is going to be great!
(Moderator) ready for next question, Nancy?
(Obany) Jurian: for what i read they are not that huge, saw a drawing of it once in a book eyes are larger then that of the Zetas
(Earth420) I feel that they are very loving
(NancyL) Intensely loving.
(Earth420) peace. love...
(Jurian) Obany: well, compared to the Praying Mantis we know, they'd be 'huge' :)
(Moderator) NEXT QUESTION, NANCY??
(Obany) Jurian: well yes
(NancyL) Yes, next!
(Moderator) NEXT QUESTION:
(Moderator) Last week the zetas mentioned one of the "clues" we should look for that the US govt is trying to set up "slaves" for use in the aftertime (i.e. warned that we should look out for lucrative job offers that involve relocation).... Can the zetas provide any other "clues" that we should look out for with regard to govt plans that may negatively affect us?
(Moderator) did that question show up?
(NancyL) ZT: The elite are at a loss as to how to control the populace, and have had many plans on the drawing board or floated out for a text.
(NancyL) ZT: One effort early on, which we warned about, was grocery clubs, where belonging to a club was supposed to give you discounts AND provide you with food when or if shortages should occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Since the crop shortages in the US and Europe did not reach the point of creating panic in the public, this plan was put aside as ADMITTING that stores were low and about to affect food on the shelves would cause more problems.
(NancyL) ZT: Nevertheless, crop shortages were worldwide, starting in the 2000 season, though unreported almost entirely, and starvation appeared in many areas not affected previously.
(NancyL) ZT: Another plan was to create work camps, so transfer strong workers there with job offers, and we have warmed against this early on.
(NancyL) ZT: This may still arise, but would be in response to workers unable to be supported by workmans compensation, or government handouts, and to date this has been views as the LEAST disruptive means of getting past mass layoffs in the populace, job losses.
(NancyL) ZT: In other words, if the grocery club or work camp would RAISE more questions than it would resolve issues, the plan is not implemented.
(NancyL) ZT: Clearly, the Christian ultra-right supported by the Bush Administration has attempted to funnel the poor to the churches, which we mentioned in the Bush PLan writeup some time ago.
(NancyL) ZT: They would close public schools, and sent the students to church run private schools, dispite evidence that inferior progress is made.
(NancyL) ZT: This continues to be funded, but the evidence on progress reports has slowed this plan, so it has become in essence dead.
(NancyL) ZT: Now that the Shuttle Columbia has been torn apart in the skies, deflating thought of escape to space, and Mars probe problems were endless, the elite is thinking about how to survive with the populace.
(NancyL) ZT: Since they cannot ADMIT what they know, they are trying to package this in terms of terrorism.
(NancyL) ZT: A recent alert had the public keeping 3 days supply of this or that, and taping up their windows with duct tape and plastic sheets.
(NancyL) ZT: At the same time, of course, all should go to work normally, so opening the door negates the taping and securing of air flow, utterly illogical.
(NancyL) ZT: As we mentioned, entertainment time is about to begin!
(NancyL) ZT: Now the statement has been issued that the information the Homeland Security department was basing this on proved false.
(NancyL) ZT: An embarrassment, as they were hoping the public would react like drones, buying tape and sealing windows, and NONE of this occurred!
(NancyL) ZT: We anticipate that asteroid attacks, about to pummel the Earth, will be used to remove the public from coastlines on occasion, or send them into their basements, or whatever.
(NancyL) ZT: This will likewise be a test.
(NancyL) ZT: Hoarding tests will occur, most likely, where threats of shortages are announced, as potentials, to see what occurs.
(NancyL) ZT: WHO stocks up, WHAT kind of demands are made, and all this going into the computer as the crisis is announced as past, wrongfully called.
(NancyL) ZT: Certainly the public will be told to clear away from certain routes to be used by the elite for escape into their bunkers, long before this is neeced.
(NancyL) ZT: Military exercises, terrorism threats, or whatever will be the reason, and the security of those routes NEVER quit removed.
(NancyL) ZT: What will occur in other countries, such as Australia or Brittain or Canada or Russia?
(NancyL) ZT: Translate this same nervousness, among the elite, into steps the elite might take in those countries.
(NancyL) ZT: In Indonesia, blockades are likely to emerge early, with no tests for shortages bothered with, just repression.
(NancyL) ZT: In Russia, they already deal with shortages, and have for decades, the public relying on the Black Market.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, in Russia, the tests might revolve around the low lands of Siberia, flooding occuring early in the pole shift process, with tests to see how the public will react if this threat is announced for some reason.
(NancyL) ZT: Countries strongly controlled by religion will find the churches announcing what to do, and you can be sure this will revolve around going TO the church or Mosque, not fleeing.
(NancyL) ZT: The faithful will be encouraged to pray more, seek counsel more, spend more time in the security of holy places.
(NancyL) ZT: To figure out what the elite may be planning to do, to misdirect the populace into areas where they will NOT block or interfere with the esacape of the elite, put yourself in their shoes!
(NancyL) ZT: What are their worries? 1. that the public will figure out what is about to happen, thus any Earth changes will be camoflaged as something OTHER than what they are.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. that the public will grab up supplies, or raid the supplies and storehouses of the elite, thus these are well hidden and any attempts of the public to GO there would be countered by announcements of toxic substances in the area.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. that they public will block the roads, crowd them with their panic and demands, rioting, and thus secure routes will be put into place well ahead of when needed, on almost any excuse.
(NancyL) ZT: 4. that the public will quit their jobs, leave their posts, and PREVENT in essence the elite from having a cushy existence up until the end, thus the public will NOT be informed, even on the last day, with armed guards preventing any questions being put to them.
(NancyL) ZT: So for your local, your country, your culture, put yourself in the place of the elite, and try to think like a self centered bastard, and you will have their plans before they are announced!
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, and end of hour it looks like!
(InSomNiaC420) Good info
(DonMB) NancyL: Precisely when will asteroids pummel the earth?
(Moderator) THAT'S THE HOUR, FOLKS. NANCY HAS TO GO.
(Franci66) why have ZT crop shortages predictions for Europe/US not been accurate so far? we should be all starving now...
(Dim) Thank you Nancy and thank you Queen Vee.
(Moderator) THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING! Our apologies for the technical glitches in our first-run with the new set-up. Please feel free to email me with suggestions on how it might be improved ([email protected]).
(Tcards) thanks nancy
(NancyL) Will see anyone wanting to attend the next session in #zetatalk channel.
(Earth420) Good job QV... Bye Nancy/Zs
(NancyL) Thanks Queen!
(Domicile) Thanks Nancy and Z's
(PegasiTristan) ty Nancy
(Serbeo) thank you
(Sotos) ty Nancy
(NancyL) Bye all!
Session Close: Sat Feb 15 15:33:17 2003