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Session Start: Sat Mar 30 15:59:17 2002
-Topic is 'next IRC session today, Mar 30, 2002, 22:00 UTC/GMT: more info ../index/z01.htm'
-Set by Gerard on Sat Mar 30 14:00:22
-IQx-BUSY- Welcome to ZetaTalk - http://www.zetatalk.com - Enjoy Your Stay
(Brian) Zetapal, Not according to Zetatalk,
(Canuck) tt-canada members... Paltalk at 7 pm MST we'll try again
(NancyL) Hi, just mailed the Agenda off to Jurian and Gerard.
(Torbj) Again about the chemtrails, that�s being discussed from now and then, here�s 3 links to read how to get rid of them!.... Maybe this could be used in the aftertime to clear the skies over your village/community??
(Torbj) Read this first.
(Torbj) http://educate-yourself.org/visualray21may0.html
(Torbj) And this after reading the first one!
(Torbj) http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/16/cloudbuster.htm
(Torbj) Another page on the "BIG INTERNET" due to this subject, in a few lines......
(Torbj) http://www.there4iam.com/orgone.html
(Zetapal) Clarify Brian
(SteveH) Good to see you back on sci.astro, maybe Jim Scotti will reply :)
(Cmel) So ... what's today
(Brian) STO aliens will answer STO calls...
(NancyL) One of the Q's was from Niels, but he echos a complaint others have made in e-mail. Since I think it is, basically, a misunderstanding of WHAT the Zetas said and WHAT is going on in the world (more an interpretation by readers, etc.) I want to clarify.
(Brian) Hi Nancy :)
(SteveH) Brian, I think an STO can go into a rage, sure if necessary
(Zetapal) Correct and STS aliens will answer STS calls...
(NancyL) However, so as not to take up ZT time during the chat, I want to clarify by flooding for a moment or two, quotes, etc., that make my point, if no one would mind.
(IQx-BUSY) Of course NancyL, proceed
(NancyL) This is Niels Q'
(NancyL) CROP FAILURES
(NancyL) 1. What about the Zetas' prediction of the crop failures in the years 2000, 2001 and 2002! Many of these so called crop failures flatly did not occur! For example, in most parts of Europe we had a pretty good harvest last year, even above average.
(Cmel) No I tried once .. and an STS alien answered
(Brian) Zetapal, yes, I thought you said STS always answer all calls, my misunderstanding :)
(NancyL) Here's what the Z's said, in various places, re Crop Failures:
(NancyL) ZT P09.htm Crop Failures
(NancyL) "Of course, leading up to the cataclysms, not all produce will fail. Greenhouse crops will come through. Backyard gardens, tendered carefully by watchful eyes, will survive. But the large cash crops that supply crowded population centers will find little to market, and the prices will go up accordingly. At first, stores put up against such times will be tapped. After a bit, these stores will run down, and governments will get nervous. Helping handouts, from countries better off to those in desperation, will stop. Friction on these matters will fray at already frayed nerves. Up until the cataclysms, humans in the main will struggle on with the farming and fishing methods they are familiar with.."
-Gerard changes topic to 'Follow up questions related to the answer given can be asked after the answer is given (follow up questions)'
(NancyL) ZT T80.htm Next 3 1/2 Years
(NancyL) "As we have predicted in 1995, there will be increasing crop shortages to the point where commercial crops will fail for the next 3 years running. Not in 1999 but during the 3 years following, going into the coming pole shift. This is already occurring around the world, where it is noted that this or that crop has failed. This does not get the news coverage it should, on what this means for starvation and food shortages, which are rarely mentioned. Everyone should anticipate that the price of food is going to skyrocket, shortages will occur, and thus they should prepare to grow their own - indoor gardening, fish tanks, eating insects - whatever means they can achieve and plan for the long haul. Learn how to feed yourself."
(NancyL) ZT T88.htm During 2000
(NancyL) "We have predicted there will in essence be a complete crop failure for the 3 years going into the Spring of 2003. This means the years of 2000, 2001, and 2002 will find such devastation to commercial crops that the stores set aside by the government for such disasters will be depleted greatly."
(CalneCrusader-r) Well that hasn't happened has it?
(IQx-BUSY) NancyL: and partially it is true, crop shortages in places around the world are reported (although many are supressed) - most of such news are linked on http://iqx.cjb.net
(IQx-BUSY) For example : North Korea is running out of Food Supplies, and will be finished off by April or so.
(NancyL) Now, in what I've posted, they are saying stores will be depleated, starving people around the world will be ignored rather than helped, essential crop failure in commercial crops will occur (impacted by weather), and prices will go up.
(CalneCrusader-r) Generally though it hasnt happened like that
(NancyL) All this happened, though obviously not EVERY plant died and in some cases, as with rice in rain, crops even improved.
(IQx-BUSY) Indeed it did, much of it is not reported although, to keep the public quiet - in fear of panic rising
(NancyL) However, what the Zetas predicted DID occur, and is ongoing. As follows:
(CalneCrusader-r) They are very accurate with the refugee problem - its terrible here in the UK now
(NancyL) 2001Wheat "As Americans prepare to celebrate Thanksgiving and another bountiful harvest, there are signs that the world harvest is falling short as water shortages translate into food shortages. In its November world crop survey, the U.S. Department of Agriculture reports that this year's estimated world grain harvest of 1,841 million tons will fall 54 million tons short of projected consumption of 1,895 million tons. This comes on the heels of a poor crop last year, when world output fell short of use by 34 million tons."
(NancyL) 2001 South Africa : "South African businesses warned consumers yesterday to expect rocketing food prices,... Food prices, particularly the staple maize crop, are among the hardest hit. It's affecting (grain) prices dramatically because of ... a shortage in the country, said Bully Botma, chairperson of producer group Grain South Africa."
(NancyL) 2002 Malasia "Consumers may be eating fewer vegetables if the dry spell continues for several more months.... This is the second setback faced by vegetable farmers in recent months due to weather conditions; the first being the monsoon season when flash floods destroyed crops worth millions of ringgit. ... We are not saying that there will be no vegetables at all...there will be but the supply is small."
(NancyL) 2002 Iowa "Last week's record warmth has fooled some plants into thinking it's spring with a few flowers peeking through the ground. ... The unusually warm winter could spell trouble as many plants or fruit trees begin to bud too early. In some cases, such as apple trees, an entire crop could be lost."
(Bob) Just read last week for the east coast of US this is the driest winter on record
(NancyL) Under-reporting of starvation (did we see the starving stick children in the Sudan, anymore? They are still starving, but OUT of the news) is going on. Stores being depleated, unless we get honesty from the governments, we can't say for sure, etc.
(CalneCrusader-r) Nancy, here in Europe the refugee problem is getting uncontrollable
(IQx-BUSY) Bob: absolutely, Montana (a US State) is currently in Extreme Emergency state, because of drought
(SteveH) NY is in a drought emergency. At least that's what David Letterman kept going on about in show a couple nights ago
(NancyL) OK, Thanks for your patience, as I'm not going to address the CROP FAILURE issue, as I don't think it needs to be addressed further.
(NancyL) Onto today's agenda.
(IQx-BUSY) Yes, NY also - NYC Especially
(NancyL) SHIFT
(NancyL) 1. Because the events that will occur during the pole shift are so intense and variable, it may be necessary for some people to be in different spots/structures during different phases. For example, one might want to be indoors during the hail of red rocks from Planet X's tail; but then you might want to be outdoors during the Richter 9/15 quakes in case your dwelling might collapse. Thus, the precise order and timing of events is critical.
(NancyL) ZT: Taking the ZetaTalk message increasingly seriously, many are doing critical thinking about their personal preparations.
(NancyL) ZT: Planning for a safe passage through the pole shift and a reasonable expectation of life in the Aftertime, requires a many pronged approach.
(NancyL) ZT: First, the individual often feels they must balance their pole shift plans with their current lifestyle and position in society.
(sebn) How many planes crashed the 11th Sept
(Okidok) How do you know the earthquake magnitude? Why do you proclaim 15???
(NancyL) ZT: The double life delima that contactees and secret agents must live.
(NancyL) ZT: They want to protect their jobs and marital relationships, fulfill their duties and not lose ground in the game of life.
(NancyL) ZT: So in any plans they make, they are, in early 2002, cutting their pole shift plans CLOSE, wanting to do the minimum necessary.
(Gerard) Okidok: not related.. and no chatter during the answer please
(Okidok) Ok sorry
(NancyL) ZT: Second, since ZetaTalk is voluminous and for the newcomer requiring hours of work to plow through, it is not clear just WHAT should be a concern and in what TIME FRAME.
(NancyL) ZT: The pole shift is described in ZetaTalk and Troubled Times in past geology terms, in various prophecies which speak in analogies, in the mechanics of a pole shift, and as life afterwards.
(NancyL) ZT: Ideally, this should all be taken in steps, with the past examined, prophecy read with an open heart so as not to take each word literally, then the mechanics of the shift itself digested, and emotional adjustment to what life afterwards would become.
(NancyL) ZT: At this point, the person is ready to make personal plans.
(NancyL) ZT: Third, once emotionally prepared to go THROUGH the shift and have a diminished lifestyle afterwards, the individual is ready to make solid and practical plans.
(NancyL) ZT: The first consideration should be survival of the shift itself, and this requires distancing oneself from coastlines or fault lines or volcanoes, and protecting oneself from the high winds and potential firestorms.
(CalneCrusader-r) Will a brick built house withstand the winds?
(NancyL) ZT: The Safe Locations document which our emissary Nancy has prepared for readers assist in determining whether ones location is safe for survival, or relatively safe, and what dangers would need to be guarded against.
(NancyL) ZT: Life afterwards is a more murky issue, which comes AFTER resolution of safety during the shift itself.
(Torbj) Detachment!!
(NancyL) ZT: At this time, in early 2002 and perhaps up until the shift itself, the newcomer wants to know just WHAT to do WHEN, to survive.
(NancyL) ZT: Our advice, which is a repeat of information that can be found in the body of ZetaTalk, is as follows:
(NancyL) 1. To the degree that one is able, take yourself to a relativley safe place AT LEAST by the time the rotation of the Earth occurs.
(NancyL) ZT: The timing of this will not take you by surprise, as the inbound planet will be seen in the sky, unaided by telescope, for 7 weeks prior to the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: The day of rotation stoppage is also not a surprise, as clocks and watches will be increasingly poky, and rotation takes a day to stop.
(NancyL) ZT: Even if in the WRONG place at that time, in that most of the population will be in shock but FUNCTIONING, one could most likely travel on roads or even rails. Get GOING to your safe location, if not there already.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. During the week of rotation stoppage, preparations not already made for the hour of the shift can be addressed, with rehearsals.
(NancyL) ZT: On the long-day side of the Earth, it will seems like the worst mid-summer days, and on the long-night, colder than expected and one must deal with the dark, so anticipate these situations, depending upon where your location is.
(NancyL) ZT: High winds are avoided by being AT ground level, in a trench or under an overhang, or the like.
(NancyL) ZT: Downpour, deluges, and flooding might occur, depending upon your location, so wheRever you are riding out the shift should NOT be where you will be flooded or drown.
(NancyL) ZT: Existing structures are best avoided, so do NOT plan on being in or under any existing structure. The least structure around you, the better, during quakes.
(NancyL) ZT: Plan on being PRONE, not upright, so roll along the ground rather than being dashed.
(Cmel) So building a concrete overhang shouldn't be done ?
(NancyL) ZT: 3. Having established what you will do when the hour arrives, the next issue is to watch for the hour.
(NancyL) ZT: Assign, among your group, at least one individual at all times to watch the skies and for signes.
(Cmel) I was thinking of that
(RC) So smart Cmel
(Cmel) Sorry noooo
(NancyL) ZT: The tail of the passing planet will curve TOWARD the earth, due to gravity attraction, so some red dusting will occur almost as soon as rotation stoppage occurs.
(NancyL) ZT: But when approaching the hour of the shift, the tail lashing will get extreme, with not only red dust but gravel and hail falling.
(NancyL) ZT: This is a sign that the shift is very close, within hours, and all should seek shelter under the sod or metal roofs they have constructed over trenches, or under overhangs.
(NancyL) ZT: It is not necessary for all to be prone, for hours, if watching the skies is ongoing and by competent individuals.
(NancyL) ZT: Children, in particular, should be allowed to release their energy in play, but keep them close and within voice call.
(NancyL) ZT: The separating of the crust from the core is UNMISTAKABLE, in that jiggling can be felt, and the stars or whatever visible in the sky will MOVE.
(NancyL) ZT: It is at this point that preparations for the shift itself should be made.
(NancyL) ZT: 4. Lie down, keeping children firmly in hand so they cannot panic and run out into the wind or lashing tail.
(NancyL) ZT: Singing loudly in a group sing or some other engrossing activity will help in this regard, and keep the adults from panic also.
(NancyL) ZT: Jolting and cracking of nearby trees will be felt and heard, and all should be ignored if the site has been well selected.
(DavidS) Kjenner du en som heter anita Bekkelund? Hun bor p� Hamar
(DavidS) Ooops..wrong:-)
(NancyL) ZT: At the end of the hour, it will be apparent that it is safe to emerge, as jolting will have stopped.
(NancyL) ZT: A test can be done against the sky. Have the stars stopped moving? Then the shift is past.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Cmel) What do you recomend .. in respect to building shelters for the shift?
(RC) Zetas, How will PlanetX be spotted by midsummer when it will be behind the Sun until fall?
(Tris) Are you saying there will be no government acknowledgment or disclosure, even as we see it 7 weeks ahead without a telescope?
(Brian) Open the Champagne :)
(Samsara2003) Will the Zeta's be able to provide forwarening as to what side of the earth will be in light and what side in dark - and if so when will an accurate determination of these calculations be able to be made.
(Brian) What can we do to help get ourselves and others into STO orientation?
(Lebrasse) Nancy, its said that ignorance is bliss. Sometimes I REALLY wish I didnt know about any of this :-/
(B2B) Any change in the projected date?
(CalneCrusader-r) How do we check with the stars if on the long day side of the shift
(NancyL) Cmel, for the shift itself, a trench covered by a metal roof covered by sod, or a wooden roof covered by sod.
(NancyL) Low trench, as you will be laying in it, so caving the sides in is not a problem.
(SteveH) If laying prone on the ground, will the jolting of the earth cause one to be thrown some distance in the air?
(NancyL) RC, those in the southern hemisphere have better luck in mid-summer, I think.
(RC) Ok
(Merylong) Will planet x be visible during daytime or nightine only?
(Torbj) Dont know if this is good or not....but prepare to get some sand in a big enough area...where you can lie down during the quakes....
(Canuck) At what point will the oxygen in the atmosphere be sucked away?
(RobH) Plus u can see near-sun objects just before sunrise
(NancyL) Tris, I personally am not expecting any disclosure, except perhaps in Europe, certainly not the US, at all. Human hands, so predictions by the Zetas cannot be firm, etc.
(Cybervviz) I still wonder the strange movings of that Planet X. It's now above light speed, it will be visible 7 days before passing, so it's slows down terrible, we will see first Giants passing by !
(Bob) Any way to guage what direction the winds will be blowing or just swirling about?
(NancyL) Samara, this is know. Check the Rotation Stoppage writeup in Pole Shift.
(Cmel) Will there be any disclosure in Scandinavia ?
(CalneCrusader-r) How strong will the winds be?
(Okidok) If any muslim goverment that are hostile to USA want to harm the western economy, they can just disclosure what they know about the 12 planet
(NancyL) Brian, STO orientation is a self choice, read Orientation section of ZT. Not an intellectual choice, action counts, etc.
(RobH) Okidok - most wouldnt believe it anyway even if on CNN
(Brian) Does being STO oriented have anything to do with surviving the shift itself though?
(NancyL) B2B, no change in the date. May 15th 2003 is not LATE, a tad early, but more as the date approaches.
(Samsara2003) But Nancy - if the Zeta's are not sure of the exact timing of Nibiru - how can they make an accurate prediction of exactly what position the earth will stop rotating at?
(NancyL) Calne, if on the long day, you can see the moon or SOMETHING up there, else move forward to the next signs, jiggling, etc.
(NancyL) Oh! You can see the SUN move :-)
(Cmel) So NancyL you're saying that even if, I wanted intellectually to be STO, I couldn't change my basic self?
(Zetapal) Correct Cmel
(NancyL) SteveH, laying prone in a narrow low trench prevents you from being tossed, especially if a sod or metal roof overhead. Bruise or two, maybe, not broken.
(Torbj) About the shirft...one hour....the wind will be terrible...I mean Scandinavia being placed south of equator.in less than an hour...
(RC) Is 2003 May because of 2012 mayan being 2003 Gr cal and spring plants in animals mouth?
(SteveH) Samsara: Atlantic ridge is gripped by magnetism of PX
(CalneCrusader-r) Torbj - no because the wind will move with the crust
(NancyL) Bob, as the atomosphere will be SO much in turmoil, expect winds from all directions, anything could happen.
(Torbj) It takes several hours to go down to the eqator by plane from here....big winds are about to happen!
(Okidok) Nancy do you wish you are wrong in your predictions???
(Cmel) I second that question
(Brian) Should we worry about air quality if we aren't close to any volcanos?
(Jubjub963) I missed the first half, can somebody post the log of this?
(NancyL) Brian, surviving if STO only if lift offered and accepted. Then they get dropped back into the swamp anyway :-)
(NancyL) Calne, hurriance force winds.
(Brian) Thanks Nancy, so it is important! :)
(NancyL) Canuck, oxygen may or may not be a problem. Zeta have said that in a shelter, no problem, so only if in the open air, I gather.
(NancyL) A rare occurence.
(NancyL) Related to firestorms using it up, only, I gather.
(Canuck) Will it be long-lasting... the o2 shortage?
(Cmel) Nancy answer this ... do you want your predictions to happen ???
(Cmel) I don't
(NancyL) Samsara, they are sure of the timing, just not telling YOU all the details, because the establishment would gain from this, more than the little guy!
(Matt) Sheesh Cmel
(Cmel) What??
(Cmel) Sheesh = ??
(NancyL) Okidok, yes, I would prefer this not be coming about, etc. For sure.
(NancyL) OK, going to Q2
(SteveH) Cmel: don't hope for predictions not to happen as they are being proven true just get ready!
(Torbj) this may sound foolish...but putting on those "cyclehelmets" would be a good idea...
(NancyL) YOGA
(NancyL) 1. How do people manage to walk on fire without injuries? How can the body be controlled by the spirit in such extreme ways?
(Cybervviz) I think a huge rubber ping pong ball is a good option to go inside
(RC) Don't waste the zetas time.. need prep questions.
(Gerard) Please no chatter during the answer please ...
(NancyL) ZT: Yogas, who control their bodies to be able to breath with reduced oxygen use, in closed chambers, burried chambers, for hours past the point of death in a normal person, or otherwise resist injury by walking over hot coals, are NOT operating outside their physiology.
(NancyL) ZT: If they were, then why are there limits on what is reported, or performed?
(Grimzilla) How do you handle accepting people in your group that you worry are STS, and how should you handle saying no if needed?
(Cmel) How can a cityguy like me prepare for the coming shift ??
(NancyL) ZT: If one can walk over hot coals, then why not through a firestorm?
(Cybervviz) Sssst
(Okidok) Will there be alien aircraft ready to rescue any???
(NancyL) ZT: If breathing less and reducing the metabolism for hours, then why not weeks?
(NancyL) ZT: If super-human powers were afoot, then limits would not be in place.
(Cmel) That will be a rare occasion
(Gerard) Chmel, Grimzilla, Okiok no questions, chatter durring the answer please
(Cmel) Ok, sorry ;-)
(NancyL) ZT: Yogas learn, through dedicated practice, to control their body's reactions, not unlike a warrier resisting pain during battle in order to survive.
(RC) Who cares the world is close to being destroyed! Get short term oxygen supply.
(NancyL) ZT: Your bodies use of oxygen can take surprising steps, as for instance where a child falls into very cold water and is apparently DEAD for an hour or more, then Revived as normal.
(NancyL) ZT: This is an indication of the capacity of the body to REDUCE its normal reactions.
(NancyL) ZT: Yogas who walk over coals have, in the first place, calloused bare feet that have almost an inch of dead skin, thickened, on the soles.
(NancyL) ZT: They have analyzed and practices just HOW long the food must be on a hot coal, HOW quickly lifted, and WHERE to place the foot.
(NancyL) ZT: Blistering does not occur, as live flesh has not been burned.
(RC) Zzzzz!!
(NancyL) ZT: Dead thickened skin peels off, rebuilding underneath, and no one but the Yoga is the wiser.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(Jubjub963) How do you explain news reports where it's been shown that the coals aren't really coals but types of rocks that conduct very little heat at all?
(DavidS) About yoga: What is the benefit of doing yoga-exercise for human beings, for the body and mind?
(B2B) Ordinary people do this in weekend seminars all the time - with no practice.
(NancyL) Jub, I know that fraud occurs, but the real performance also occurs.
(NancyL) I walked barefoot over ice all the time, in my youth, taking out the garbage, and never even FELT it.
(NancyL) Moving along, due to time, Q3
(NancyL) BLACK WATER
(NancyL) 1. What about the HUGE black spot in the waters off the gulf of mexico near FLA? Is this underwater volcanos spewing minerals?
(Cybervviz) Yes, I saw ordinary people doing that too, without having a big dead foot flesh thing.
(Torbj) But this is a good thing to the new ones.... telling their brain�s that they can do those things that their brain tells them they can not do!
(RC) Next question..thank goodness
(Torbj) Question yourselves!!
(NancyL) ZT: Recently, reports of black water in the Gulf of Mexico have hit the news, with no explanation. What is causing this, in waters otherwise clear enough for scuba diving?
(Cruithne) Is there anything to share concerning clean drinking water after shift
(NancyL) ZT: Over the past couple years, man has become aware that ocean fish have migrated north, along with the warmer waters, and the flow patterns changing alround the world.
(Cmel) Distill your water ...
(Gerard) Cruit: hush .. not during the answer please.. and the question is not related.
(NancyL) ZT: But a change such as the black water is NOT due to changed flow patterns, but to new vents opening up along fault lines under the Carribean area.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have stated, the Carribean and Central Americas will be devastated during the shift, as the weak link when the plates are on the move and crashing into each other, and even before this when stretching and ripping and compression occur.
(Samsara2003) Found a link about this: http://www.naplesnews.com/02/03/naples/d756329a.htm
(NancyL) ZT: This activity does not altogether occur during the HOUR of the shift, or the week of rotation stoppage, as the stress on the Earth's crust is apparent even now.
(Aldeberan) Space.com says its an algae bloom http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/blackwater_solved_020229.html
(Zetapal) Interesting
(NancyL) ZT: Increased quake activity, volcanic activity, and signs of just where in the crust that dramatic changes will occur are evident, if one reads the signs.
(RC) Good research aldeb
(Torbj) Black algae?
(RC) Yes
(NancyL) ZT: There is more than hot lava that oozes up in cRevases, as most fault lines are layered and NOT giving access to hot lava to the surface.
(NancyL) ZT: Dirt, rather than solid rock, may be trapped between layers, and when a fault pulls apart this dirt will be released into the water above.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, this is a phenomena that may be repeated elsewhere around the world, as the shift approaches, where such dirt or debris is trapped between rock laters at present.
(NancyL) End ZT.
(RC) Where next?
(Samsara2003) Wow
(NancyL) RC, we'll know when it happens, I guess. Last Q4
(Khl456) http://cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/03/20/north.pole/index.html
(NancyL) GREAT PYRAMIDS
(NancyL) 1. How old great pyramids
(Tessa) Q: When were the pyramids of Egypt built?
(NancyL) ZT: In answering the question recently on wandering poles, where they were for the several shifts back and what occurred on Earth during those times, it should be apparent to the readership that OVERLAPPING changes have occured.
(Rev) Nancy, might you ask the Zetas if they know any good intergalactic Human Jokes? Just to lighten the mood, is all =)
(Gerard) Rev: hush ...
(NancyL) ZT: Where one might be pointed due north at one time, pointed north-east after a shift, then moved again to be pointed due north again, this does NOT mean that all lines up as before!
(RC) Bravo
(NancyL) ZT: Continents change position vs a vs each other during such time, so where one spot may be, again, due north, a spot on another continent may NOT have adjusted back.
(RC) Good point
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, is is not simply pointing out that one must Revisit the past few pole shift, and what direction a spot or object on Earth may have found itself pointing in, it is building one shift upon another to determine the OVERALL effect.
(NancyL) ZT: In the case of the Giant Pyramids, rumored to be pointing or aligned exactly north and south but in fact not that precise at all, one must consider WHAT the builders were after.
(NancyL) ZT: They were wishing to allow their offspring, on earth so long after they had died, to sight the inbound 12th Planet IN TIME to get into space in a ship and moving into position to join and land this passing planet as it floated past.
(NancyL) ZT: This is NOT pointing to Orion, as the approach close to the passage is 32 degrees below the ecliptic, the planet having dropped during its approach.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, one must not only Reverse-engineer the Great Pyramids through the past pole shift, but also bear in mind just WHERE the sighting down the long tubes of a redish light from the inbound planet might BE.
(NancyL) ZT: All of this makes for an exercise that would not resolve readily, and is pointless in view of the near at hand passage in a year or so.
(NancyL) ZT: We would suggest that those obsessed with the past put this aside, and focus on the future.
(NancyL) ZT: As Nancy is fond of saying, "are you prepared to help all the orphans that will be gathered around your knees after the shift? No? Then why are you focusing on TRIVIA!"
(NancyL) End ZT.
(NancyL) and the end of the hour!
(RC) Who wrote the Pyramids instruction book..where they simple to operate?
(Samsara2003) Exactly what year were the great Pyamids constructed...
(Merylong) Who were the builders of the Giant Pyramids?
(Rev) Nancy, any good human jokes?
(Brian) Did any of there offspring use the pyramids to sight the 12th Planet in time and where they successfull?
(NancyL) I got through the agenda, though had a last minute Q from Kiko which I'll move to the next chat, I think.
(Samsara2003) What mechanical means did the annukai use to construct them...
(Torbj) That last thing from the Zetas...LOVE!!!!
(Tessa) Yeah right Samsara, Nanzeta is beating around the bush again...
(Matt) My thoughts exactly on the trivia.....
(S7L) Samsara2003: the previous zetatalk relates the rocks were levitated
(Cataclaw) Oooh
(NancyL) RC, peek down the tube, and when you see the red light of the inbound PX, get in your space ship and ...
(Cybervviz) Do Zeta's known more about the people of the planet with the two suns ? :-)
(RC) Ha
(Matt) Lol
(NancyL) Merylong, this is in ZT, in the Pole Shift section. The giant hominoids of the 12th Planet, as sighting devices.
(Cataclaw) Hey you're that Nancy person, the one behind all this zeta stuff :P I read your site yesterday.
(NancyL) Copycat pyramids were build later, for kings and the like, but these were not the Great Pyamids, etc.
(An) Black water update... I just read that the black water goes to the bottom, so I don't think algae would likely live down there. There are few fish in the water, and the fish that do go in act abnormally, jumping and running. Also, local fishermen have not seen any algae, just viscous, slimy black water.
(Rev) Nancy, I respect and admire your courage. COuld you ask the Zetas to comment on the role of Meher Baba in the coming year?
(NancyL) Brian, some died, some lived, like our astronauts, per the Z's. Yes, in the main they worked as they were deliving the Gold and this was important to the home planet, etc.
(Samsara2003) Exactly what year were the great Pyamids constructed...Was it before the last pole shift but after the one prior to the last?
(Brian) Thanks Nancy.
(Tessa) Yes Samsara this is also my questions
(NancyL) Matt and Tessa, you should see the endless email on trivia that I get. Put out a trivia related answer and gripping to details and arguing goes on endlessly.
(Tessa) Its just frustrating to worm every single word out of the zetas nose...
(Samsara2003) Egyptioligsts put it at ca. 2000 B.C.
(RC) Does west coast have hugh quake before shift?
(NancyL) It is like someone wanting to know if the sounding of the trumpets in Revelations, Bible is .. quakes or .. what?
(Samsara2003) That would have put it 400 / 500 years prior to the last shift...indicating they survived the previous Pole Shift
(Matt) Not good
(Brian) Nancy, are you still having those feelings like somethings about to happen?
(RC) Is bioterroism next?
(NancyL) Well, as soon as this is interpreted, then we move to the NEXT phrase, and they want that interpreted, and meanwhile argue endlessly over any interpreation.
(Gerard) The future ... what will occur next year is important. Asking about the past all of the time is kina
(NancyL) I don't want to spend my time on this trivia, so refuse, and refusing to FUEL trival, or encourage it, is part of that stance.
(Tessa) No NancyL, I simply asked for a date..
(SteveH) RC, Z's can't comment on where/when next eathquakes
(Matt) Exactly Gerard
(Tessa) Ok Nanzeta
(SWB) Thanks Nancy and Zeta's for your time. See you next week.
(NancyL) You don't like it, then go somewhere else for your answer, I'm doing important things, not things accoring to Tessa or Matt or Neils or whomever.
(Cataclaw) Hey umm, I'm new to this zeta stuff, I only read about it yesterday, but how do you explain the descrepencies in your claims and your web site? I mean, it's all nicely documented at http://www.planet-x.150m.com...
(NancyL) Tessa, then go ELSEWHERE, you think I care?
(Torbj) About the pyramids...it�s some kind of "resonance waterbed" in the lower part that�s creating a "megaHertz" wave that�s interacting with a "not now present" outer shell, that creating a electricity field
(RC) Cool down
(Rev) Nancy, any comment on Meher Baba and the so-called breaking of his silence?
(RC) Zetas get a grip
(NancyL) Brian, I think one shoe just dropped, today or last couple days, but will know shortly.
(Cybervviz) With your level of consciousness we have no doubt You care about
(Thunderoc) Nancy..you deserve our thanks for your STO time :o)
(NancyL) Yes, changes afoot. Could go many ways, etc., so I'm not consciously aware yet. Maybe the outcome, the shoes, are NOT determined yet!
(RobH) Yeah and EVERYONE is getting sick a lot now, more any more contrails
(Canuck) Yes, Nancy, thanks to you and Zetas for trying to help so many:0
(Cataclaw) Umm, hello? Care to comment?
(Zetapal) SteveH could anyone predict where the first raindrop of a storm would fall?
(B2B) Yes, thanks, Nancy. Some of us are making BIG changes to get ready and wouldn't know without you.
(RC) Good job Nancy!
(Cybervviz) Confirmation of the ego is often confirmation of darkness and illusion
(RobH) Got that right!
(NancyL) Tessa, you're like the folks who want to know every detail about the Annunaki. Does it matter? Will they see them in their life time? NO! So I don't spend my time on this.
(Thunderoc) Everyone helping everyone...Like that! :o)
(Superzod) Good answer Nancy :)
(Merylong) How can the giant hominoids of the 12th Planet (who had space travel technology 3600 years ago and built pyramids) be prevented to land on Earth during 2003 PX's passage?
(NancyL) Tessa, you want to spend YOUR time, on this, then do the analysis. Take the wandering poles page, analyze where they would be looking, how long to get aloft to reach their home planet.
(Torbj) The pyramids are not in line with the time to come, though!
(Rev) Pardon. Nancy, anything re: Baba? Anything at all?
(RC) Rev ?
(DavidS) Rev - I think it is a non-important question
(SteveH) Zetapal, not me that's for sure. unless it fell on my head
(NancyL) Meanwhile, you can argue and insult YOURSELF when you don't like the answer. Is Tessa Neils? Didn't I tell you I'd NOT answer your questions, due to your insults in email?
(NancyL) You think insulting gets you your way, it does NOT.
(Gerard) What will occur in some time from now, the pole shift. the transformation, that's what counts now
(RC) Tell em Nancy
(NancyL) Go ELSEWHERE, as I frankly could care less!
(Gerard) Tessa is not Niels for what I know, ...
(Brian) Rob Sepehr the maker of planetxmovie says he would like Bandwidth.
(NancyL) Merylong, the Zetas explained in the Quarantine writeup that they are not so much blocked as discouraged.
(RC) Gerard don't doubt the zetas
(SteveH) Cataclaw, that site is disinformation from what I can tell
(NancyL) They had lost goal, encountered big carnivors, etc., and decided to move to Mar's moon.
(NancyL) Now we have technology, and they don't want the confrontations.
(RobH) Merry - they dont know they are under quarantine, per ZT
(NancyL) So, THEY are not planning to come to Earth.
(Dew) Thank you Nancy for your time its me and my wife greatly, we are preparing
(Torbj) This Tessa and Niels.... they will be in your way BIG time after the shift... learn to deal with them now....
(Cybervviz) Brotherhood has forbidden interaction from alian races during this time :-)
(Brian) Nancy, did you see/ agree with the planetxmovie? Would you think it was good if it was on the internet?
(NancyL) Rev, Sai Baba is answered in ZT already, read the Myths section.
(Zetapal) Brotherhood lol!!!
(Rev) No no, Meher Baba. Two very different people
(NancyL) Tessa and Neils are both friends, so who knows.
(Cybervviz) The Lord of the Worlds
(Cybervviz) :-))
(Cybervviz) No, it's true
(Gerard) RC: I trust what's being said about next year etc
(Rev) He mentioned themes similar to zetatalk b4 his death
(Rev) Just curious as to whether the zetas had any info..
(NancyL) Brian, what do you mean by bandwidth for Rob Sep?
(NancyL) Brian, I don't agree with the Annunaki genetically engineering man, but do agree they HAVE been engineered, and enjoyed the guy who detailed why this must have occurred.
(Torbj) I meant "Tessa and Niels" as ... anyone anoying
(RobH) I hope we have help in steering the STS annoyances AWAY after the shift, it sure does eat up much time and effort fighting them endlessly, which I suppose is excatly what the higher ups want
(Merylong) What's the prevailing spiritual orientation on Px? STO or STS?
(Grimzilla) NancyL: what can you do about people wanting to be in your group that you feel are STS, if anything can this be addressed on a future IRC session?
(RC) I saw Hale-Bopp..so not sure about everything here.
(NancyL) Rob Sep stayed at my house for a long weekend, with his film technician, to film me.
(Brian) Only clips of his movie are available on the internet, he has said he would like more bandwidth so that more of it could be available online.
(NancyL) I know him fairly well, and he is genuine and trying to do a good thing here.
(Brian) He was on the Lou Gentile show after you on Monday.
(Cruithne) Does the zetas know of best simple way to clean water other than what people know?
(Lebrasse) Nancy, is there any footage of YOU on the internet?
(NancyL) We are making some changes re Hazelwood, to make it clear that 2003 was what I said in 1995, etc., and where all the buzz on 2003 came from.
(Cataclaw) Just curious.. I'm open to these ideas, but I'd just like to know... hypothetical situation, what happens if none of this stuff is/was true, what are you people going to do? :P
(Matt) The Lou Gentile show with Rob was very good.
(RC) He was unable to explain many basics on radio
(Gerard) Merylong: 3th density, mixed orientation on Nibiru... and not ready for their transformation yet
(SteveH) RC, Z's said it was a supernova when first spotted, but object which passed earth was a comet, so yes, you would have seen it.
(NancyL) Also, in the existing video, on binary sun and distance from Earth, he has Hazewood spouting forth under my diagram, so we changed this. I get to spout, same difference but fair.
(RobH) Cat - my idea is that leaning a self-sufficient lifestyle is a good idea anyway, PS or not
(NancyL) I put a link into Rob Sep's site, as I think he did an excellent job!
(NancyL) His goal was to NOT push ZT first, thinking the average person would turn the TV off then.
(Superzod) Whats the link ?
(Matt) He was very fair
(Brian) Yes, I hope that more of his video is available online soon.
(Cataclaw) Sulf-suffiency is effective, but cooperation and teamwork is more efficient
(NancyL) He met his goal, I think, as he wanted to lead TO PX via science, etc., before he got heavy into ZT.
(Zetapal) Cataclaw I'll just move on/Revamp/chalk it up as a learning experience/and discount the validity of my inner witness
(Matt) So the video is going to be re-done then Nancy?
(NancyL) I think it would be appropriate for TV, discovery channels and the like, and he hopes this will occur.
(Brian) Some people can only believe something if it's on a TV screen.
(Matt) Or edited...
(SteveH) Rob spoke very highly of you Nancy
(Sirgrim) Any chance you took a look at that link I gave you last week Nancy?
(Canuck) Yes, Rob told me you are telepathic Nancy!
(NancyL) Brian, well maybe if the Sun server gets online, the nonprofit can offer a service. Not sure ...
(RC) Rob got lost in woods
(DavidS) Nancy - it seems that you have eaten a lot of vitamins today..you have been here for 1 hour 30 minutes now:-)
(NancyL) Superzod, on my home page now. PlanetX Video, can't miss it.
(Gerard) More media attention soon I think
(Matt) Shhh david don't scare her off ;)
(NancyL) Matt, a tad, redone, yes.
(Superzod) :)
(Matt) Ok ta
(Torbj) My thinking...if all the worlds TV-sets malfunctioned from now and 7 days from now.... then a LOT of people around the world would wake up!
(NancyL) He's a genuine STO, and not given to pampering himself at all.
(Matt) Yes that comes across on the radio
(Gerard) www.planetxvideo.com is the page
(NancyL) Canuck, he knows that from personal experience :-)
(RC) Does Bush die before shift?
(Canuck) So he said :-))
(Aldeberan) Lol
(Torbj) Due to the greater vibrations of their stomachs
(Cybervviz) Mmm, he takes an aargh battle cruiser.
(NancyL) DavidS, had the day off yesterday due to the Easter weekend, so have been getting my rest and sleep.
(DavidS) NancyL... yes you need to sleep more now Nancy.. take more rest.. you deserve it after hard days
(Torbj) Compared to their brains
(RC) Nancy quit your job use credit cards!
(NancyL) RC, this is in the hands of man! Could go many ways!
(Canuck) RC one can only hope!
(Thunderoc) Lol
(Merylong) Nancy are the Zetas in contact with the Giant Hominoids?
(NancyL) OK, going to close off, good session and thanks all for inspiring great ZetaTalk.
(Aldeberan) Didn't the zetas say there is enough dirt from enron to bring him down?
(NancyL) Sorry to be barking at Neils and Tesse and Matt, but trivia begets trivia, and don't I know!
(Torbj) Again about the chemtrails, that�s being discussed from now and then, here�s 3 links to read how to get rid of them!....maybe this could be used in the aftertime to clear the skies over your village/community??
(Torbj) Read this first.
(Torbj) http://educate-yourself.org/visualray21may0.html
(Torbj) And this after reading the first one!
(Torbj) http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/16/cloudbuster.htm
(Torbj) Another page on the "BIG INTERNET" due to this subject, in a few lines......
(Torbj) http://www.there4iam.com/orgone.html
Session Close: Sat Mar 30 17:27:11 2002